kk leme rephrase what i meant...lol. IFFFF i debrand my phone using the methods described before with the gdfs an what not and my phone is debranded with no rogers stuff at all an w.e...then i was told (in previous posts) SEUS can still update firmware/software, THEN wouldnt that mean its still covered by warranty? at least by sony since the phone still holds their updated firmware? :S lol