replace a CID52 with a CID49 [Archive]

raressj

04-21-2007, 06:10 PM

Caspar

04-22-2007, 05:42 AM

It cannot be lowered CID!

ivbuiliev

04-22-2007, 07:32 AM

If your OTP CID is 49, it may be possible to downgrade. Try to flash it with CID49 EROM.

PS: OTP stands for one time programming and it can not be changed. SEUS has changed your EROM CID to 52. So I guess flashing with CID49 EROM will help to have OTP CID = EROM CID = 49.

gaurav62

04-22-2007, 08:50 AM

no no no.....cid cannot be lowered........try it at ur own risk.......i would suggest u to do a bit of more research......

rafox

04-22-2007, 09:33 AM

It wont work man...
Because the CID cannot be lowered, no erom modifications can do this...
I sugest everyone not to use SEUS... Its a problem...

;)

docmagoo2

04-22-2007, 11:00 AM

i kinda work on the principle, if a CID can be raised, then why cant it be lowered. its not like we're changing the hardware eh? think there are many better minds than mine who know a lot more about this.....

luzer

04-22-2007, 11:39 AM

Can't be downgrade because the loader was changed to not take a lower CID and no tool can change that

sirny

04-22-2007, 06:40 PM

not possible

dziqsek

04-29-2007, 08:20 AM

why not ?? I have cid52 now too and my phone is f***ed up, i want to reflash it by seus but it doesn't work;/

OWIES

04-29-2007, 01:52 PM

Can't be downgrade because the loader was changed to not take a lower CID and no tool can change that
so, how to explain that, then my V600 flashed from cid36 to 49, and after that when i flash it back to 36 using davinci client it still working fine ?
it was quite time ago.

i ask few pepole and they sey that i can downgrade erom cid to OTP cid, (eg. erom 51 to otp 49) but lower than OTP is impossible so ?

Khaba

04-29-2007, 04:14 PM

so let me understand, for eg. if your OTP CID is 49 and your EROM CID is 52, you can downgrade your EROM CID to 49 without any problem? Where did you read that, I want to look into it, I need some more info about this.

dziqsek

04-30-2007, 12:11 PM

yeah me too ;) if it work i'll kiss your toe ;))

sunfire7

05-01-2007, 01:25 PM

Not possible, luzer told us why

OWIES

05-01-2007, 01:59 PM

few hours ago i ask my frend, he told me then he yesterday downgrade K800 cid 51 (as i remember, posible it was 52) back to cid49 using cruiser and credit for it. he just flash main and fs, (finalize of coz too) ewerything work fine and without problems.

he told me also, then somtimes downgrade cid is imposible, because some new firmware have "sumprises" and back cid to OTP number can damage mobile.
he say also then downgrade cid is normal operation, and he doing that from time to time.

in few days i will ask other my frend about that problem.

so i was able to downgrade, my frend too
how to explain that ?

dziqsek

05-01-2007, 03:27 PM

U have cruiser maybe thats why ;) I have CID52 too and i cannot downgrade it with dcu-60 ;((

OWIES

05-01-2007, 05:09 PM

U have cruiser maybe thats why ;) I have CID52 too and i cannot downgrade it with dcu-60 ;((
but first time i use only davinci client on my own mobile :o
i think it`s realy possible to do.

maybe not for free, but cost is aceptable, specialy if someone want to mod his firmware ;)

symbchris

05-30-2007, 11:57 AM

CID is not possible to be changed because it is programmed in the EEPROM of your phone and it is meant for the users not to mod their fones. Because they were leaks in the 1st batch of units as it it possible and easy to mod them out. Like newer models of K750i and W800i have CID49 in them. Lucky me I got 1 with a CID36 and Farmanager enters witout sweat...

dfahren

10-09-2007, 07:20 AM

Hey cool. You can downgrade a CDI36 V600? I never thought it would we possible. BTW, what EROM CID did you got?
Best wishes, DFahren

Sic

10-09-2007, 04:09 PM

Cid can not be downgraded.
Its just can be upgraded.

jsaren

10-10-2007, 03:57 AM

haha,i wana my cid51 to cid49,but it is impossible too.

tybyisback

10-11-2007, 12:12 PM

I have a k800 and I want to change the CID52 back to CID49 the phone was locked and I flashed with CID49 and after a month a updated it with SEUS and I'm stuck whit CID52 and I can't do nothing!pls help:confused:

since you upgraded your phone with cid 52 you can't back it up.it is like windows,the new version can do anithing the old varsion can do but the old version can't do what new version can.This is what i read.

jsaren

10-12-2007, 03:26 AM

but my friend wrote cid49 farfirm files to my cid51 w710i yestoday.

cibo

10-12-2007, 11:07 AM

your phone has - OTP CID and EROM CID.
EROM CID you can upgrade for example from 49>52.
but OTP CID will stay at 49 only EROM CID is changing.
then you can with service cable rollback your cid to OTP VERSION.

justme

10-12-2007, 01:20 PM

What?? Changing the EROM version back to 49? How you wanna do that?

djtetei

10-12-2007, 08:13 PM

Hey man! Why do you try to make life difficult for you?
Just download the CID52 MAIN, FS and CDA, flash it to the phone with SETool2Lite, and then try to check for updates on SEUS.

The problem for you comes only if you phone was unlocked and by updating on SEUS becomes locked again.

If it was't properly unlocked, try to do it with professional tools and after that flash a CID52 GENERIC Firmware+FS+CDA, and finally you can update from SEUS whenever you want.

I have a CID52 K800i bought from Orange (branded), and after i backed-up the original Orange software i uploaded the following files:
- K800_R1KG001_MAIN_GENERIC_WI_RED52
- K800_R1KG001_FS_MEDITERR_RED52
- HB1_06_Gen_CDA102568_4_R6A_GENERIC_MEDITERR
It works fine and i can update from SEUS anytime without problems.
PS: I don't mind for the moment that the phone is not SIM Free

Be well!

jibe82

10-12-2007, 09:35 PM

For p990i does it possible ??

Dunanik

10-13-2007, 02:27 AM

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cibo

10-13-2007, 05:20 AM

i think that to downgrade cid to OTP CID can by usefull setool full version... because in SEToolLite is too but not working "CHANGE CURRENT CID TO:"...

Dunanik

10-13-2007, 06:59 AM

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djtetei

10-13-2007, 07:18 AM

Go for CID52. The reason for this is this: if you want to use the latest firmware updates from SEUS the CID will be changed for sure in CID52 because currently in the latest protection system.

Note: the CID no. will always go up because this is what updates are for.

malik786

10-25-2007, 09:35 AM

not possible dear i have already tried but phone not accept cid 49 flash files

drdre20013

10-31-2007, 03:54 AM

CID 49 to 36 was possible but with the higher security such as CID50/51/52 its not possible to downgrade, Sony ericsson uses this so people like us cant mess with our handsets.

roth_28

10-31-2007, 04:16 AM

it won't works by lowering your cid52 to cid 49..its a problem..

BadBoyTC

10-31-2007, 12:03 PM

A bit of searching and I found this thread

Can I downgrade?
[Only registered and activated users can see links]

On the third post it says:
If your OTP CID is 49, it may be possible to downgrade. Try to flash it with CID49 EROM.

PS: OTP stands for one time programming and it can not be changed. SEUS has changed your EROM CID to 52. So I guess flashing with CID49 EROM will help to have OTP CID = EROM CID = 49.

And my phone's
OTP CID: 49
EROM CID: 52
So that means I can downgrade?

phanthom2o4o

10-31-2007, 03:28 PM

Cross CID ( apply a flash with a CID different of the CID phone ) flashes can be maded with SETool FULL, but at end the phone preserve his original CID...

BR

Dunanik

11-01-2007, 03:16 PM

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phanthom2o4o

11-02-2007, 09:36 PM

If you will find EROM CID 49 signed for DB2020, then yes ! :)
But this EROM is not exist ! :(

Are you shure??? if i remember, CID EROM on DB2020 phones can not be downgraded right?? :(

BR

anish_123

11-03-2007, 04:07 AM

yup..i don't think CID can be lowered..if u try changing erom an stuff.. u mite end up bricking ur phone..

cibo

11-03-2007, 02:33 PM

i think that the erom cid can be downgraded back to the version of otp cid. but only with service cable and software. /maybe only with hw box/

2145

11-06-2007, 10:47 AM

About the people saying they did it with DaVinciTeam... If you flash a CID 51/52 FW on a CID 49 phone with 3rd party tools (meaning anything but SEUS), the EROM doesn't get flashed. So, if both EROM and OTP are CID49 then it is possible to flash CID49 FW (atleast, that's how it was several months agp).

If I'm wrong, please do correct me.

As for today, there's not much point in lowering the CID because you can do almost anything with XS++ 3,0 an SETool Lite.
So, if you're planning to change the CID back to 49 (altough I don't recommend it), good luck, and do report back ;).

Dunanik

11-07-2007, 10:45 PM

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malik786

11-09-2007, 04:34 AM

dear impossible if posible then pls send tutorial

brickie

11-09-2007, 09:39 AM

all info ive read says you cant lower cid,so try at your own risk!:D

wisky_2004

11-10-2007, 07:38 AM

you cannot lower a cid on an otp>49 only cid49 otp/cid50/51/52 erom cids can be lowered back to 49 but to do this you need EMMA access and seus2 professional meaning you got to work for sonyE or have acces to theyr service... so imposible...
or you can try cross flashing a erom cid 49 with cid 50/51/52 firmware like i did on my k310 when i turned to w200 erom cid remained 49 and flash cid changed to 52 so i can use it with far+sefp w/r setool2lite and other free flashers as k310 try on other models on your own risk k310@w200 tested method... the rest i dont know

sandrokbca

11-13-2007, 05:00 PM

As CID has not regress

onizuka

11-25-2007, 06:06 PM

Hello, I am new here. Just curious, what does changing the CID do?

Norby C.

11-26-2007, 05:12 PM

well, when your phone had CID 49, YOU NEED TO FLASH IT BACK TO CID 49, if you want your phone to work again, you need to return it to his initial stage. Download it from the DOWNLOAD AREA.